BTW: You asked we after this merge. You said it was between me and GMKing. I said I probably would of said yes, but don’t see I can offer you much.

Danny

Well you know what, if you dont like having “GMking.org Presents” in the beginning of videos. How about we dont? A link in the corner of GMTV’s website will do good.

As for the wiki, you have your own reasons and I repsect those and understand them as well. I wanted to make it clear to people like gmjab that we are not a service that is out there to merge with others (i.e. we are not out to merge with the GMT wiki, etc.), and I used a couple of [valid] ad hominum statements to clarify and support my point.

And just a side note: dont let the fact that GMking.org running GMTV stop you from submitting any GMTech or GMTech-related ads there as well.

I would truly like to see GMTV get better, but without anything related to GMKing slapped on as well. The sticker in the corner and the ‘GMKing presents’, since your just out to help get it better – why have those.

If you read my first comment there was ‘I’ several times in it, it is my personal opininon on the matter. Tuntis (who seems to always want to disagree) replied, so I replied to his comment. That is all, I have to do with this.

Second of all, will there be a GMking.org sticker? If a “GMking.org Presents GMTV” is really an act of removing user choice, then someone misunderstands the whole concept of user choice obviously. We can either create our own TV service as we have been asked to do numerous times, or we can help support a good one that we personally like and think it has room for improvement. How are we removing user choice?

Not sure what’s going on, but I explicitly made it clear to Danny when we were talking about the issue that I do not want any extra advertising for GMking.org nor any bias, and he can vouch for that. Instead, we will connect GMTV with other services where it makes sense (and for you, GMTech, you could know that GMTV will not promote MarkUp in any way other than normal advertising, an option still open to GMTech themselves.. just FYI), this means that if there’s a big script of code which danny might need to read out loud and noone will listen to, we’ll have a link to a proper page on the network instead, etc. This will enhance GMTV not cripple it.

And gmjab, PLEASE “This is why GMTECH always denies the invitations we receive from GMKing”

ALWAYS DENIES?

We made one invitation, and that was to merge MU with GMTech more than a year ago. The invitation wasn’t restricted in any way and you know it. And, you didn’t turn it down, you gave us a counter-deal with your own terms and asked us if we would agree instead, we ended up not agreeing.

I recently asked gamez if we he wouldn’t mind having GMTech articles on GMpedia.org (this means, having a GMTech section on GMpedia that links to your site, etc, and have sub-articles in that section belonging to GMTech). I wouldn’t call that an invitation to a merge at all. The answer I got from such a request is that the license permits it, but that GMTech wishes not to affiliate with GMking.org in any way — and I respected those wishes.

Now, you think that GMking merging with other services is a bad thing for the community because it hurts user choice. First of all let me remind you that the choice for a TV service of GMTV has always been a “limited, single choice” — it has always been GMTV alone, we’re not limiting it any further.

As when it comes to merging with GMKB for instance, I think we’re needless to say that we got a thankyou from nickydude for proposing to handle the GMKB articles and he was very excited about the idea himself.

Now, you might think: Hey, they’re limiting choice now, there was GMKB and GMpedia.org, and now there’s just GMpedia.

Well, that doesn’t hurt the community. What would you rather have: two, separate, average quality, incomplete services OR one good, complete, and beneficial service? We care about this community and are acting accordingly. On the other hand, what you are doing (though you might not realize it) is that you’re crippling the full potential of good community services. “We dont want GMpedia (an excellent GM wiki) to have our articles and provide a complete service, because GMpedia is part of GMking which we compete with.” Well, my friend, we’d rather help the community and deal with our competitors than harm the community by shining as a solo service.

I’m not asking more people to merge with GMking; I do not want that to begin with! But I hate it when people accuse that GMking does this for its own good only. I mean: GMking.org is a non-profit, time consuming project that is very tiring and exhausting to handle. I gain absolutely nothing from it but a couple of simple thank yous. I never criticized the fact that GMTech charges for their advertisements or anything (although, you might want to check the Creative Commons license you use), but accusing me and my friends that we are working on GMking.org for our own good is just WRONG. We consume our time, money, and most importantly: energy, into this. And “this” doesn’t mean “making GMking.org popular” — why would I Care about that?? We consume our resources for the community; because I’ve been one a GM developer who needed resources and have appreciated the scarce resource which I’ve recieved, why can’t I provide dense resources to others like me?

As for gamez93, for saying “what does gmking.org exaclty has to offer/benefit”, I think the offer part was made clear: writers, hosting, resources, and web solutions at times. What does GMking.org have to gain? It becomes a more full rounded service. A service which.. SERVES.. the community. So call us “The GMC’s Microsoft” because we merge with services, help them grow, but remember: unlike monopolies: we provide this for free, and OPEN SOURCE.

Uh… Congrats, you care about the “merge in general” too! If GMking’s “going about their business the wrong way [with GMTV]“, it’s pretty much related to the “merge in general”. No?

“…. it benefits GMKing on the most part because not only have they scored 1) a new service 2) new traffic the have also removed competition for themselves.”

Congrats. You’ve just taken your first glance at a new world called real life where the word competition means something. This stuff happens. Have fun living in your fantasy utopia where everything’s the way you want it to be.

“And I guess you are still looking in the dictionary to find out what the mean of the work “similar” is?”

Now this is going to the direction of word nazism? Your argument is still flawed.

“Similar” means having a “likeness” or “resemblance”. I guess “online show” is a perfect “resemblance” that fits both to the audcast and GMTV. But they’re still in a completely different form of media. Here is a hint: your argument is invalid, once again.

“By now I know you have nothing better to do…”

Gee, take that tuntis! Yeah, I’d rather be watching Psych instead of having Thunderbird nag me every 5 minutes you write yet another argument against me. I could shut it off – but I need to know when my life is crap. (PS. yeah, that’s not a picture of Thunderbird, at that time I was using another mail client)

That is my opinion, which is why I posted it. You clearly have different views and that is fine.

BTW: You said ‘technical issues, such as hosting’ – Which is why I commented on hosting.