Comments on: Softwrap used “mostly” for Payment Options http://gamemakerblog.com/2010/03/23/softwrap-used-mostly-for-payment-options/ Gamemaker news, comment, discussion, opinion and community news Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:04:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: tapfuma http://gamemakerblog.com/2010/03/23/softwrap-used-mostly-for-payment-options/comment-page-1/#comment-62357 tapfuma Thu, 13 May 2010 00:20:51 +0000 http://gamemakerblog.com/?p=4219#comment-62357 where can i get yoyo's bank account number, branch & swift code? where can i get yoyo’s bank account number, branch & swift code?

]]> By: SVPTEAM http://gamemakerblog.com/2010/03/23/softwrap-used-mostly-for-payment-options/comment-page-1/#comment-57765 SVPTEAM Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:49:29 +0000 http://gamemakerblog.com/?p=4219#comment-57765 Encrypted or not, this will not make any sense to true crackers. It will just slow the application, and make it impossible to run under certain non-emulators like Wine. SVPTEAM, DRXJ, XFORCE and BRD all have automatic dumping tools that can dump almost any encryption. because soon or later, the application, or parts of it must be decrypted to be used. When they dump the functions, relocate them and the new clean executable is OKAY. Then some assembly level of searching to modify the RETN of the functions that are about licensing. Soon or later Game Maker 9 will be cracked. The nasty part is that altrough GM7 wasnt compleely and truly cracked, GM8 was even before the public spread... And if Sandy or Mark asks themselves WHY and WHO? Look at these projects that aim to port game maker to flash and java. And most important, there is a project to port game maker to linux unser GPL. The last project will use MingW for true compiling and true performance... Game maker is excellent software. But it is slow! Version 8 may have faster runner, but the code editor is extremely slow. And finally, if Mark is professor, he might find some ASM guru, even the crackers themselves, and write true compiler. For me, as a part of SVPTEAM, it was NOT my decision to crack game maker 8. The rest of our team however did. Without my acceptance. Now I am no longer member of SVPTEAM for several reasons. Because I respect game maker, but it MUST be better. Yes, I will no longer use GM, now I am contributing to G-C++, because Linus and Open world must have similar game making tool. But G-C++ will target the professional game design, and not the educational. Encrypted or not, this will not make any sense to true crackers. It will just slow the application, and make it impossible to run under certain non-emulators like Wine.
SVPTEAM, DRXJ, XFORCE and BRD all have automatic dumping tools that can dump almost any encryption. because soon or later, the application, or parts of it must be decrypted to be used. When they dump the functions, relocate them and the new clean executable is OKAY. Then some assembly level of searching to modify the RETN of the functions that are about licensing. Soon or later Game Maker 9 will be cracked. The nasty part is that altrough GM7 wasnt compleely and truly cracked, GM8 was even before the public spread…

And if Sandy or Mark asks themselves WHY and WHO?
Look at these projects that aim to port game maker to flash and java. And most important, there is a project to port game maker to linux unser GPL.
The last project will use MingW for true compiling and true performance…

Game maker is excellent software. But it is slow! Version 8 may have faster runner, but the code editor is extremely slow. And finally, if Mark is professor, he might find some ASM guru, even the crackers themselves, and write true compiler.

For me, as a part of SVPTEAM, it was NOT my decision to crack game maker 8. The rest of our team however did. Without my acceptance. Now I am no longer member of SVPTEAM for several reasons. Because I respect game maker, but it MUST be better.

Yes, I will no longer use GM, now I am contributing to G-C++, because Linus and Open world must have similar game making tool.

But G-C++ will target the professional game design, and not the educational.

]]> By: James Rhodes http://gamemakerblog.com/2010/03/23/softwrap-used-mostly-for-payment-options/comment-page-1/#comment-57757 James Rhodes Sun, 28 Mar 2010 13:57:13 +0000 http://gamemakerblog.com/?p=4219#comment-57757 DCMA notices have no effect outside the United States (and Australia who has a trade agreement with the US). Encryption is also useless (Software encrypts the executable now and clearly there are pirated copies of GM). DCMA notices have no effect outside the United States (and Australia who has a trade agreement with the US). Encryption is also useless (Software encrypts the executable now and clearly there are pirated copies of GM).

]]> By: James http://gamemakerblog.com/2010/03/23/softwrap-used-mostly-for-payment-options/comment-page-1/#comment-57709 James Sat, 27 Mar 2010 14:24:11 +0000 http://gamemakerblog.com/?p=4219#comment-57709 The fact that the program is heavily pirated is not the real problem. If the program could not be pirated in the first place, there would be no copies to download. In the next version Mark needs to: 1) Remove Softwap. Use his own system, with which he can shut down individual copies and remove illegal serial codes without having to contact Softwrap. 2) Start sending some DMCA emails to websites which host the cracks 3) Start sending some DMCA to Phil's "advert" websites. They do not host the files but they damage reputation. They remove the listing for "ds game maker" even though the system is designed to work for any title. 4) Encrypt the source! I am not a C++ or Delphi programmer so I do not know how he will go about this, but in .NET there is a fantastic tool called 'Eazfuscator' and thus far, none of the recent DS Game Maker releases have ever been cracked. Adios The fact that the program is heavily pirated is not the real problem.

If the program could not be pirated in the first place, there would be no copies to download.

In the next version Mark needs to:
1) Remove Softwap. Use his own system, with which he can shut down individual copies and remove illegal serial codes without having to contact Softwrap.
2) Start sending some DMCA emails to websites which host the cracks
3) Start sending some DMCA to Phil’s “advert” websites. They do not host the files but they damage reputation. They remove the listing for “ds game maker” even though the system is designed to work for any title.
4) Encrypt the source! I am not a C++ or Delphi programmer so I do not know how he will go about this, but in .NET there is a fantastic tool called ‘Eazfuscator’ and thus far, none of the recent DS Game Maker releases have ever been cracked.

Adios

]]> By: Frederick http://gamemakerblog.com/2010/03/23/softwrap-used-mostly-for-payment-options/comment-page-1/#comment-57577 Frederick Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:08:23 +0000 http://gamemakerblog.com/?p=4219#comment-57577 True. True.

]]> By: Bas http://gamemakerblog.com/2010/03/23/softwrap-used-mostly-for-payment-options/comment-page-1/#comment-57569 Bas Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:04:05 +0000 http://gamemakerblog.com/?p=4219#comment-57569 <blockquote cite="#commentbody-57535"> <strong><a href="#comment-57535" rel="nofollow">GameMakerAddict</a> :</strong>A total of 30,989 downloads of supposed GM8 cracks. Or in terms on monetary loss:$774,725 lost. This is just one quick site search. Imagine all of the money YYG would have if GM8 had not been cracked and downloaded multiple times. Suddenly that mere $25 your paid seems a lot bigger. <a href="http://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/15/02/28/04/gm8cra10.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/15/02/28/04/gm8cra10.jpg</a> </blockquote> People Buy, or not. The not people has 2 groups: They download it anyways, or they don't People who download will not have bought it if there wasn't anything like piracy ;)

GameMakerAddict :A total of 30,989 downloads of supposed GM8 cracks. Or in terms on monetary loss:$774,725 lost. This is just one quick site search. Imagine all of the money YYG would have if GM8 had not been cracked and downloaded multiple times. Suddenly that mere $25 your paid seems a lot bigger.
http://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/15/02/28/04/gm8cra10.jpg

People Buy, or not. The not people has 2 groups: They download it anyways, or they don’t

People who download will not have bought it if there wasn’t anything like piracy ;)

]]> By: Philip Gamble http://gamemakerblog.com/2010/03/23/softwrap-used-mostly-for-payment-options/comment-page-1/#comment-57536 Philip Gamble Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:30:04 +0000 http://gamemakerblog.com/?p=4219#comment-57536 That is actually just an advert, see http://gamemakerblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/none-existent-software-item.png That is actually just an advert, see http://gamemakerblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/none-existent-software-item.png

]]> By: GameMakerAddict http://gamemakerblog.com/2010/03/23/softwrap-used-mostly-for-payment-options/comment-page-1/#comment-57535 GameMakerAddict Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:22:43 +0000 http://gamemakerblog.com/?p=4219#comment-57535 A total of 30,989 downloads of supposed GM8 cracks. Or in terms on monetary loss:$774,725 lost. This is just one quick site search. Imagine all of the money YYG would have if GM8 had not been cracked and downloaded multiple times. Suddenly that mere $25 your paid seems a lot bigger. http://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/15/02/28/04/gm8cra10.jpg A total of 30,989 downloads of supposed GM8 cracks. Or in terms on monetary loss:$774,725 lost. This is just one quick site search. Imagine all of the money YYG would have if GM8 had not been cracked and downloaded multiple times. Suddenly that mere $25 your paid seems a lot bigger.

http://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/15/02/28/04/gm8cra10.jpg

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