Why I dislike GM Fetch

on April 28, 2008 - 8689 Views

When the first issue of this magazine came along at the end of March I was surprised at the positive reviews it was getting at the GMC considering it had only four pages of content.

They are arrogant – slogganing their magazine with the phrase “Its not about beating the competition – because we’ve already won”, which they also managed to mis-quote on their blog.

The issue is poorly laid out. Making terrible use of empty space, with large borders and cramped text.

They take digs at Game Maker Magazine, “I ain’t gonna steal GMT’s design like GMM”, after the issue had been resolved between Game Maker Magazine and Game Maker Tech.

Sure, these issues are probably similar to those faced by every Game Maker magazine that starts out, and will probably improve with time.

But, to top it all, it appears anonymouss joined the magazine team after the release of the first issue. I haven’t mentioned my view on anonymouss publicly before – but I’m sure some of you know that he irritates me. Anonymouss takes every available opportunity to promote his site. If this was only done at relevant times then fair play, but he will find any reason to include a link from the GMC to iWannaPlay. Take for example this rather blatent attempt.

I don’t want to read what looks like it is turning into yet another advert for iWannaPlay, as seen in this screenshot released of Issue 2:

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41 Responses to Why I dislike GM Fetch

  1. Broxter says:

    Well, maybe that was a tad harsh…

  2. Broxter says:

    Gamma6 is a failure!

  3. Gamma6 says:

    Yeah, your right.

  4. Danny says:

    @Gamma6-I think it’s funny that you think your the only one to face criticism, in fact it made you quit! We ALL! Face criticism. GMTV gets criticized constantly we still do, but we are still making episodes and each time a new episode is released theres less negative criticism and more positive.http://gamemakerblog.com/2007/10/25/gmtv-part-666/

  5. Broxter says:

    Awww…

    Why can’t everyone be friends?

  6. gamez93 says:

    I ask that you take a look at this – http://gamemakerblog.com/tag/gmtech/page/4/ – and read through all the blogs. That will allow you to see what I went through all the negative comments – you have to be strong, if your going to let a few people over the Internet put you down then it’s not worth you bothering. All you can see is the words they type, I don’t get upset by it because they aren’t saying it to my face.

  7. Timoi says:

    “The issue is poorly laid out. Making terrible use of empty space, with large borders and cramped text.” That is true, if you look at the latest issues of GMT or MU, GMF is very far behind. You have asked people to be constructive in their critisism and I think that Phil has been very constructive, he’s said exactly what he doesn’t like about the mag. Either ignore what he says or take it in.

    You also need to ask yourself, and possibly tell us, why you’re making GMF.

    I’ve also noticed GMFetch is (almost) an anagram of GMTech. Conspiracy!!!

  8. gamez93 says:

    ‘wtf is wrong with you? How does this make my magazine poor? How does the fact most people think he is a girl make him bad to interview? Think of something good to write, next time.’

    wtf is wrong you? I guess you don’t know how to read, I made a reply shortly after the first one stating ‘there is nothing wrong with being a girl, just the fact that most people aren’t that interested in him to actually care’. I also never called your magazine poor.

    So read all the post before launching into a rant.

    I am amazed at how hard it is for people to read posts fully before becoming defensive.

  9. Gamma6 says:

    What did you expect? A guys posts a topic tearing apart GM Fetch and creating a little gang of people that hate us, and you expect us to say:
    “Oh right. Cool. We are in a blog. Lol” and just forget about it. I have had so much trouble getting this off the ground, and before I can even make issue 2 I get bombarded with shitty comments. Infact, a few weeks ago I almost gave up because apparently nobody gives a hoot that we are constantly working to try and make issue 2 have much more quality content.

    And frankly, your right Danny. If I get more crap then I probably won’t pass 4 issues, not because I don’t have the time or effort, but just because I don’t think I could bother busting my ass of for people to make negative news about it.

  10. Danny says:

    OH I see, so you get to have your say and then tell us that we can’t talk and because we will act like noobs? I understand you don’t like my mag, and not surprised seen as there is only 1 issue.

    No how bout instead of justifying and bitching at Phil you accept the criticism.

  11. Phil Gamble says:

    I must admit I didn’t understand that when I read it earlier, glad it wasn’t only me…

  12. Gamma6 says:

    (sorry about my typos)

  13. Gamma6 says:

    Gamma6 stop being a total douche bag because we don’t like your damn magazine
    —-
    So to anyone who works for GM Fetch do not reply to this saying “ZOMG WTF?????/////// GM FETCH PWNS GMT and MU, YOU GUYS ARE 1337 N00BS” or any similar statement to that because thats completely bias.
    —–

    OH I see, so you get to have your say and then tell us that we can’t talk and because we will act like noobs? I understand you don’t like my mag, and not surprised seen as there is only 1 issue.

  14. Danny says:

    And to add onto Phil’s statement that this site isn’t just news:

    “Blog- A frequent, chronological publication of personal thoughts and Web links.”

    Thats the definition and correct me if I am wrong but isn’t this site called GameMakerBLOG

  15. Danny says:

    Gamma6 stop being a total douche bag because we don’t like your damn magazine thus far.

  16. gamez93 says:

    May I add there is nothing wrong with being a girl, just the fact that most people aren’t that interested in him to actually care. It’s only Issue 2 I wonder how this issue will look. What is your planned release date?

  17. gamez93 says:

    ‘Yeah, Sandy is being interviewed about the decompiler, and the mods are being interviewed on what extensions they think are the best.

    Great, you arrange an interview with Sandy – a person that most people still think is a girl and your asking questions about the decompiler. Good Luck.

  18. Phil Gamble says:

    Who said this blog only gave news?

    “Gamemaker news, comment, discussion, opinion, community news and downloads.”

  19. Broxter says:

    Yeah, sometimes I think he just writes ‘news’ because he gets a bit bored.

  20. Gamma6 says:

    ‘Yeah, Sandy is being interviewed about the decompiler, and the mods are being interviewed on what extensions they think are the best.

    Great, you arrange an interview with Sandy – a person that most people still think is a girl

    – —
    wtf is wrong with you? How does this make my magazine poor? How does the fact most people think he is a girl make him bad to interview? Think of something good to write, next time.

  21. Gamma6 says:

    Its all over the place, but isn’t too far off from completion. Its nice to know somebody is interested rather than making me out to be an asshole.

  22. Broxter says:

    Well, Gamma6 says that the magazine showcases news as well as extensions.

  23. Gamma6 says:

    Sorry for another GM post but I want to make a point here. I don’t see how Phillip Gamble has nothing to write about, so he writes opinions on how he “hates my mag” and calls it news. And I found this ealier.

    “I think this is quite a good first issue, albeit very short.”

    QUITE GOOD FOR A FIRST ISSUE?!?! According to your “news” that is invalid. So what position are you at? A hater of GM Fetch, a fan, or a liar?

  24. Timoi says:

    Hmm, an interview with Mods and Sandy, how exactly does that related to extensions?

  25. Broxter says:

    You’ve got an interview with Sandy? Cool, that’s fair good.

  26. Gamma6 says:

    Yeah, Sandy is being interviewed about the decompiler, and the mods are being interviewed on what extensions they think are the best.

  27. Gamma6 says:

    Oh and hardcore, you took part in decompiling a game. Thats why I wanted you off a forum that I work in. No GM Fetch forum, a forum I work in. SLANDER its called SLANDER.

  28. Gamma6 says:

    Well, I read this. I respect your opinions, and I really couldn’t care less. But I would like to keep the battle fair and share my side.
    ——
    Phil writes: When the first issue of this magazine came along at the end of March I was surprised at the positive reviews it was getting at the GMC considering it had only four pages of content.

    I agree, I had lacked on the content, and I think I rushed it because I wanted to see how it would turn out. I had been planning GM Fetch for years.

    —-
    Phil writes: They are arrogant – slogganing their magazine with the phrase “Its not about beating the competition – because we’ve already won”, which they also managed to mis-quote on their blog.

    Miss quote? I’ll have to look at that. I have already responded to the complaints previously.

    Phil Writes: The issue is poorly laid out. Making terrible use of empty space, with large borders and cramped text.

    Well I deleted issue 2 by accident, and have completely changed GM Fetch’s design. It still has similar parts, but looks more like a magazine this time around.

    —-
    Phill writes – They take digs at Game Maker Magazine, “I ain’t gonna steal GMT’s design like GMM”, after the issue had been resolved between Game Maker Magazine and Game Maker Tech.

    Yeah, I have to say sorry for that. I did act terribly to them, and regret it. I don’t see how this reflects the magazine, when I personally take a bite out of another.

    —-
    But, to top it all, it appears anonymouss joined the magazine team after the release of the first issue. I haven’t mentioned my view on anonymouss publicly before – but I’m sure some of you know that he irritates me.

    Thats not fair. Just becase you hate the staff, doesn’t reflect who GM Fetch is made. That comment remains invalid in my opinion.


    Anonymouss takes every available opportunity to promote his site. If this was only done at relevant times then fair play, but he will find any reason to include a link from the GMC to iWannaPlay. Take for example this rather blatent attempt.

    Actually, I did that because it was the only 1 page ad I had to show. Anonymouss never took part in the screenshots. Infact, I’m still waiting for a review from him.

    I can promise issue 2 will be much better. We have short interviews with 3 moderators and an interview with Sandy Duncan, plus more than double the content from issue 1 and a new design. Please rethink your choices.
    To be honest, its quite painful to have work that I put so much effort into get attacked at.

  29. Danny says:

    @HardcoreGamer: You beg people to be active on your shitty forums/website, not only that but you have three accounts on your very own forum just to make it “appear” active. Almost 90% of post on your forum are made by you. To add to that you think everything you do is great when it is by far the opposite your games (the ones you made) suck! Along with your recent show that you still want me to voice act for, thats how looks like instant failure (stop using WMM noob) I would not have said any of this if it weren’t for your smart ass two face comments.

  30. Broxter says:

    Well said tuntis

  31. tuntis says:

    To be honest, HCG, I’d shut up if I were you.

  32. Broxter says:

    I agree with most of what you said Phil. But, I think it’s quite harsh to write a negative article about GM Fetch when it has only released one issue.

  33. Hardcoregamer says:

    Danny you hate anything. Learn how to spell and proofread your work or else you will be as nooby as many others.

  34. gmjab says:

    “I personally hate GM Tech, there so full of there magazine which is rather”crappy” to by far say the least . Like Phil said it’s 4 pages I mean common. It is also poorly written with many grammatical errors.” – Danny

    Huh? So now you hate GMT? since when is GMT 4 pages? I think you were meant to say GM Fetch..

    gmjab

  35. Robin Monks says:

    Noone mentioned markup yet?

    Aww

    MarkUp!

    There we go 🙂 Continue fighting please…

  36. Leif902 says:

    “with more writers and content I think it’ll turn out good”

    Right, just like any stupid mag… but right now it doesn’t have those writers or content.

  37. Danny says:

    @GMJab: Oops thats a typo, GM Tech=GM Fetch.

  38. Timoi says:

    I’d have to disagree with you, while it’s lacking a little in content, it doesn’t have many of the faults most GM magazines had when they first came out. For example it’s style is consistent and neat, and is well written in the whole without 1000’s of spelling mistakes.

    While I’m not sure it’ll be able to survive for long just concentrating on extensions alone, with more writers and content I think it’ll turn out good

  39. Danny says:

    @ Timoi :Don’t you help out with GM Fetch is someway? I could swear you did if not your just a huge GM Fetch fan. Either way that makes your statement invalid. I personally hate GM Tech, there so full of there magazine which is rather”crappy” to by far say the least . Like Phil said it’s 4 pages I mean common. It is also poorly written with many grammatical errors. So to anyone who works for GM Fetch do not reply to this saying “ZOMG WTF?????/////// GM FETCH PWNS GMT and MU, YOU GUYS ARE 1337 N00BS” or any similar statement to that because thats completely bias. Just accept that we don’t like your SMUG filled magazine, and that it most likely wont past 4 issues if that.

  40. Hardcoregamer says:

    Ummm for some reason I was deleted from their forums. I was accused of doing something horrible by him too. I am starting to side with you.

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